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defense official has spoken in parliament, and he has blamed the coordinated terror attacks on a little known local islamist extremist organization named national thowheeth jama'ath, and claiming, alleging, that this homegrown organization was acting in retaliation for the deadly mass shootings that took place in christchurch, new zealand against two mosques there last month. a lot to unpack here, but there is one commonality here. if these two attacks are linked by some twisted logic of retaliation, the weapons may have been different, but if you can see behind me, the end result is the same. places of worship where innocent civilians had been gathered in prayer ripped apart. women, men, children, innocent
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cut down by the scores leaving families that will forever be broken. and the sri lankans are moving forward in their investigation, calling for international assistance given that there may be international links behind this very carefully coordinated series of attacks that took place on sunday. they say they have detained at least 40 suspects all believed to be sri lankans, but they're still very much on edge. there is a curfew expected to go into effect at 9:00 p.m. tonight. john? alisyn? >> ivan, thank you very much for the reporting. keep us posted as you get more details. the editor in chief of the ctc sentinel and the co-author of "nine lives, my time as the west's top spy inside al qaeda." paul, we wanted to get you back, because two hours ago isis had not yet claimed responsibility. now they have. what does it say to you that
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isis could remotely pull off an attack with this level of carnage, 321 people, killed, 500 others injured. what does it say about their viability? >> it came a few minutes ago via their messaging channels, but they gave no evidence yet that they are actually responsible for this attack. it was a very short statement saying the attack was carried out by its fighters targeting the citizens of coalition countries, the anti-isis coalition and also christians. no mention of the christchurch terrorist attack in the statement, it should be pointed out. but they've provided no evidence they were behind this attack yet, and they put out full statements previously, claiming responsibility for attacks they had no role in whatsoever. one example was back in october 2017 with that las vegas shooting. they claimed responsibility to
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that. they had nothing to do with that attack. it remains to be seen if they did have a link to this, but as barbara starr has reported, u.s. intelligence have identified one operative, i believe, who was a part of this who they believe had links to isis. so that could well be a link to isis. it's possible that they provided direction to this, some assistance to this attack. the group sri lankans said were responsible for this attack was a very small jihadi outfit that really didn't have the capacity or capability to pull something like this off. so you would look as an investigator at the possibility of assistance from an international terror network. there are 32 and more sri lankans that have gone to join isis in syria in recent years. there is a possibility perhaps some of those fighters came back to plan this attack or provided direction from overseas. a lot of questions still. >> and one of the main questions was, was this local group who
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had never done anything of this caliber before, could they pull it off, which is why they looked to places like isis. isis, after it happened in new zealand, put out an international call for retaliation. >> that's right, isis put out a call for retaliation. so did al qaeda, but al qaeda do not attack places of worship. that's one of the reasons why i think u.s. intelligence is focusing in on isis as the group that maybe inspired this, maybe had a link to this. we'll have to see in the hours to come whether isis puts out more information suggesting they had insider knowledge about this attack. that may then suggest they really did have some kind of role. but right now we should absolutely not take their word for it. >> paul crookshank, as always, excellent advice and insight from you. thank you very much for being with us this morning. so it is the morning after a major event, the 2020 race.
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five candidates on the same stage not at the same time. consecutively, we should say, trying to carve out their own space in this large and growing field. what was most revealing to me, at least, were there were real differences on key policy issues, voting rights for prisoners, inmates in prison, offering free college, and there were growing questions by democrats whether to seek impeachment of the president of the united states. jeffrey toobin, nc chief legal analyst, and in the flesh, michael smir csmirkonish,. >> toobin cornered me by remote. i thought i better come in today. >> i was struck last night as a point of policy that there were real divisions between these
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candidates. one of them was on an issue which was a surprise to me, which was when senator bernie sanders said he supported voting rights for people in prison, felons in prison, including the worst of the worst. so listen to what senator sanders said and then listen to the different other positions that the candidates carved out for themselves. watch. >> i think the right to vote is inherent to our democracy. yes, even for terrible people. >> people who are convicted, in prison, like the boston marathon bomber on death row, people who are convicted of sexual assault, they should be able to vote? >> i think we should have that conversation. >> while incarcerated? no. i don't think so. >> bernie? yes. kamala harris, study it. pete buttigieg, no. >> and you heard republicans come out and say, really, she wants to have a conversation about whether the boston marathon bomber should be allowed to vote in prison?
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the democrats want to have this discussion about voting rights, there's been discussion in florida about folks who get out of prison. that's something voters in florida voted to allow. and so there you have bernie sanders being bernie sanders, staking out a very far left position on this. kamala harris essentially saying she has to study it. and pete buttigieg taking another firm decision and probably a position i think most democrats will take and say, look, they're in jail. they're deprived of some rights while in jail. but when they get out of jail, they should have their voting rights restored. >> i think democrats will make voting rights a big deal. today the supreme court is hearing a case about whether the census can ask about citizenship, this sort of larger network of issues relating to the public party's attempt not to count democrats, whether it's not to allow them to vote
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through their absentee voting, early voting, felon voting. most of those issues democrats are united around. i do think that bernie took a position that the others are unlikely to take on actual serving prisoners voting. but on those other issues, i think you're going to see a lot of anonymity. >> and maybe that's the point, just see who is willing to carve out a bold position where some candidates are saying, we'll see, we'll study it. >> he's principaled. it's a legitimate conversation to have, but he had to have known as he said that that this is a series of, for lack of a better description, of willie horton ads. they're going to be on screen if they said this is someone bernie sanders thinks should not be
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denied a right to vote. >> and i do think you are hearing from more people in the democratic party nationally looking at bernie sanders' numbers in the polls, chrwhich very high, consistently high. >> which is nothing to say of the money he has. >> he's clearly the frontrunner right now, and that makes a lot of established republicans -- i'm sorry, established democrats -- who want to beat donald trump. it makes them nervous. >> it makes them nervous and it really makes joe biden want to get in this race. he will get in sometime this week. this is a replay in many ways of 2016 when you did have the establishment coalescing around hillary clinton, being very anti-bernie sanders, essentially saying he was too far left. he was a democratic socialist and that he couldn't win the white house. but then you had bernie sanders supporters, basically, on the day after the election saying bernie sanders could have won the election if he had been the nominee for the democratic
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party. so if you're bernie sanders, you feel like you're in a pretty good position. as you said, the fundraising has been off the charts. he's got a real dedicated slice of the electorate. in many ways they haven't seemed to move very much on to different candidates. >> can i say to nina's point, they're not going anywhere. that statement last night will not defend bernie supporters. we need to keep our eye on the ball in the democratic process. you'll have a super tuesday. it will involve texas, it will involve california. if bernie locks up 25% of that vote, whether he secures the nomination ultimately, i think he'll be the one holding the cards in terms of who will be the nominee. >> let's listen to what the candidates said last night about impeachment. check this out. >> i believe congress should take the steps towards impeachment. >> i think he's made it pretty clear he deserves impeachment.
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we'll leave it to the house and senate to figure that out. >> if there's going to be any accountability, that accountability has to come from the congress. >> congress has got to take a hard look at that. at the end of the day, what is most important to me is to see that donald trump is not reelected president. >> there is a third way to hold this president accountable, and that is by defeating him in the 2020 election. >> so leave it to congress and the voters. not as perhaps a radical position as we heard from some of the other candidates. >> other than elizabeth warren, there is pretty much unity among the pelosi voters, which says call don mcgahn, the former white kous counccounsel, as a wt don't call an impeachment proceeding yet. i think politically and
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substantively, that's the right decision. >> i think there is a temptation for democrats to overplay the hand they've been dealt here. it's a very goodhan hand. there is a lot of good substance. it could be advantageous. but if they're placating the base because the base wants impeachment, necessary listen to those loudest voices, i think it will drive the party into a ditch for the next election. >> but is there any sign of that happening? pelosi, nadler, they're all saying, no, we're not doing impeachment. >> in light of the pelosi call last night, the 87-minute call, i think there probably isn't. joe lockhart, who is here often, has a provocative essay in "the times" saying for democrats, they want to keep donald trump in exactly the position he's in now. they want to keep him in the election because he's the best liability they can describe to republicans. >> and sort of drawing out the scrutiny, right? if you do go forward with impeachment, it goes to the
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house, it goes to the senate. we know what will happen in the senate and then you essentially have donald trump saying he's been exonerated and this is all over. but if they kind of drag it out, you can always have that as part of the conversation. >> what about the hearings? is it worth bringing don mcgahn in? >> yes. it's worth hearing from robert mueller. the top of my list would be to question robert mueller how for 22 months many of us labored on the view that he would reach conclusions that were never a part of his plan, and sure, don mcgahn is someone you want to hear from. there are some select witnesses, but at a certain point, i think it goes too far. >> jeffrey, michael, malika? thank you. >> good of you to come around. >> excellent. >> let's just say we agree more. i thought he was going to jump across the table. she is not a senator, governor or mayor, but she is running for president and she
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running. her new book is called "politics in love." thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> how do you feel in a field of 20? >> i think it's good for the democratic party. i don't think of myself as running against anyone, i think of myself as running with a lot of smart people. if anybody has a good idea, put them out there. in terms of standing out, i don't wake up in the morning and ask how to stand out. but i do try to speak as fiercely and authentically as i can, a conversation that i believe goes deeper than that which is held by some of the candidates. >> so when you come out, you have this new book, "politics of love." what does that mean when you implement a policy platform, if you become president, how do you implement the politics of love? >> look at the politics of hate. look at what just happened in sri lanka. that is hate operationalized. that's what nazis are.
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they are hate operationalized. there is much racism, bigotry, et cetera. you operationalize compassion, you operationalize mercy and you see that as a political process as well. i'll give you an example. the factor that most wages peace, that creates situations in life where there is a higher incidence of peace and a lower incidence of conflict is expanding educational opportunities for children, expanding economic opportunities for women, reducing violence against women andie mi e marlii trauma of millions of children going to school that don't even have school supplies to teach a child to read. and if a child can't read by eight years old, the chances of high school graduation are
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drastically decreased, the chances of incarceration are increased. we have millions of children that are hungry. we have children going to school eating only what they have from the food bank. we need to include, i believe, in our conversation of political expertise, wisdom and morals and ethics and goodness. i think that the american people are good people, and i think the average american tries to live a good life, but we need to ask about a good society. and whether something is loving, ethical and moral should be part of our public as well as our private conversation. >> why do you think we're so bitterly divided? >> we're so bitterly divided because we, among other things, have a chaos agent for president. we know that. >> you said we're good people. do you think he's a good person? >> i'm not going to go there. i would say this. i believe there is goodness in all of us. i see many instances where he does not act from the goodness that i believe is our god-given mission on this earth of loving
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each other. >> elizabeth warren laid out her plan last night for free college education. the way she would pay for it is by taxing the wealthiest people, two cents on the dollar. do you like that plan? >> i do. i do. i think elizabeth warren, her whole concept of holding capitalism accountable, i think, is extremely important. i think there are too many people, particularly young people, because they weren't even born when all of this started, don't even realize the radical departure from economic ethics that began in the '80s where corporations were not -- the social contract by which corporations were expected to have ethical and moral consideration that went beyond fiduciary responsibility to the sto stockholders. they were thought to have a moral responsibility to workers, to community, to environment. that is a radical shift. it has not built a fine economy. it has decimated our economy, it has decimated the middle class. it has created 40% of all americans struggling just to make ends meet. food, transportation, health and
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rent. she's absolutely correct. i'm totally with elizabeth warren on that. we need more than incremental approaches. we need to really interrupt this horrible pattern of injustice by which 1% of all americans own more than 90% of the wealth. >> last night she said she does support impeachment proceedings of the president in the house. is that something you support? >> i think we're still in process. i believe that the house needs to do its job now, its constitutionally appointed task. i'd like to hear from mr. mueller, i'd like to hear from mr. barr, possibly mr. mcgahn. i believe having it on the table is correct. i'm not ready to go all the way over to we should impeach. but we have a process and that process needs to occur. we like to talk about music on the show. we have a new feature. ♪ >> how rocking is that, number one? >> not very. every time you ask that question, i'm going to say not very. >> john loves the grateful dead,
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okay? i love the '80s, punk rock,al alternativ alternative. what's your favorite musical genre? >> i'm with john in terms of the age, but i would say aretha, motown, bob dillon. >> who is your favorite band, favorite musician? >> i love earth, wind & fire. i love steve tyler, and like i said, bob dillon, aretha. >> and on mixed tape, your top two favorite songs? >> gloria gaynor, "i will survive." if it's a bad day, i go to gloria gaynor. if nothing else works, it's gloria gaynor. >> it is such a good one. tell me that is not your female empowerment song. >> when i'm going through a hard breakup, i always put on gloria gaynor. thank you for being here. we appreciate it. >> thank you. her music, "god bless
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america" has played for generations. now kate smith's voice is being silenced. decades after her death, the offensive lyrics that have some of the biggest teams in sports taking action, next. is fast enough? ♪ or, do you want speed and style? power and attraction? exhilaration and distinction? ♪ introducing performance, born of refinement. ♪ the lexus rc line. ♪ experience amazing at your lexus dealer. experience amazing super emma just about sleeps in her cape. but when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, we switched to tide pods free & gentle. it's gentle on her skin, and dermatologist recommended. tide free and gentle. safe for skin with psoriasis, and eczema.
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kate smith's psychotic rendition of "god bless america" is now banned by two sports teams three decades after her death. the singer's statue in florida -- sorry, in philadelphia -- has been taken down after racist lyrics were discovered in two of her songs from the 1930s. miguel marcus is live in philadelphia. tell us, miguel. >> reporter: that's where the arena is for the flyers. this is where the arena us ree- used to stand, only the base is there now. it reminds us of where this country was and how far it has to go on matters of race. ♪ god bless america. >> reporter: her voice, a philly
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and new york favorite. for decades, kate smith, a staple of philadelphia flyers games from the mid-'70s on. in her rendition of "god bless america," played at new york yankees games since the september 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. for both teams, no more. >> i'm singing this next song for all the little colored children who are listening in an orphanage in new york city. >> reporter: the rediscovering of racist songs casting kate smith in a new light. an album called "hello, everybody" features her singing "little pickaninny." and in 1991 she recorded "that's why darkies were born."
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the song a top 10 hit that year. ♪ someone had a slave ♪ that's why darkies are born. >> the flyers in a statement said the songs included lyrics and sentiments that are incompatible with the values of our organization and invoke painful and unacceptable themes. after smith's death in 1986, the flyers installed a statue of her outside their arena. the team initially covered it, then unceremoniously removed it. >> they took a statue? >> we didn't know. >> susie andron, niece to kate smith, didn't know they removed it in philadelphia. she said her aunt wasn't racist and the flyers could have considered the enormity of her life. >> what katherine gave to that team freely. freely. she was so proud that she was
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their mascot. >> reporter: in their statement, the flyers said, we cannot stand idle while material from another era gets in the way of who we are today. in 1982, smith, a star of the early 20th century, was awarded the medal of freedom by president reagan. her 1939 rendition of "god bless america" during yankees games was also ended, the team saying in a statement, the yankees take social, racial and cultural ins sensitivities very seriously, and while no final conclusions have been made, we are erring on the side of sensitivity. now, here in philadelphia, some fans were upset at how abruptly the statue was reremoved. the song itself was considered sort of a good luck charm for the flyers, but most people seemed to fall on the side of, let's start some new traditions. john? >> thanks very much, miguel
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marquez. sports and culture columnist for the "new york times," and lou shinefeld, currently president of the museum of sports. lou, it was you, who introduced the kate smith "god bless america" to the flyers. and for people who aren't sports fans, this was a giant deal for the entire '70s with kate smith in person and then the song being played ever since then. and since the removal of the statue and the banning of the song, you say this is the p.c. police striking again. what do you mean? >> well, i think there may have been a little bit of patience, maybe some public discourse. for the yankees to say they're investigating it, they yanked the song. for the flyers to ban the song -- by the way, the song pretty much had played itself out. it was 50 years ago, december 11, 1969 when i first played it. it's rarely been played in recent years and it was time to
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put the song to bed. but to cover the statue with black tarp and rope and then to have it removed under the cover of darkness or the wee hours when nobody was around, to me i think that was a little over the top. >> l.z. >> he's entitled to his opinion, but not just the songs she's quoted as singing, but also that she performed in blackface at some point and performed as a black nanny, those aren't opinions, those are facts. just as we no longer celebrate the men who used to kill people who thought the earth was round because they believed it was flat, we've moved on. we've gotten better as a society, and this is just one more step in us becoming better as a society. >> lou, you wrote an op-ed, and in that op-ed you wrote, the songs she wrote in the 1930s
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that today are considered racist, aren't they just flat out racist? can't we say the songs she recorded and the language she used then was just racist, lou? >> absolutely. the song is repulsive to me and with anybody of that mind. but that was 80 years ago. if you want to go back and rip anybody apart for any transgression they might have done 80 or 90 years ago, look, it was acceptable then. to me it should never be acceptable and i agree with lz, but are we going to tear everyone down? francis scott key, who wrote the national anthem, was an ardent slave supporter. what do we do about the national anthem? we can't keep tearing everyone down. it's history. let's learn from it. >> lz? >> yes, we can learn from it but we don't have to continue to celebrate those figures at the same time. you're absolutely correct,
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history is filled with men and women who have helped society become better culturally who happen to have racist views or have done racist things. we celebrated tiger woods recently returning back to glory winning at the masters. we didn't spend very much time asking ourselves, why was this tournament called the masters in augusta, georgia founded by two men who we know are racist, who were recorded saying racist things. ever wonder why it was called the masters? we have to find a way to find a proper balance, but that doesn't mean we have to celebrate our past mistakes. >> lz, the statement from kate smith's family was not only was she not a racist, she was a loving, gentle, deeply religious soul who helped america through two world wars and the songs declared her demonstrative appreciation for what she would today refer to as all african-americans. what would you say to the family? >> i never had the opportunity
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to meet her. i haven't interviewed or done any reporting with her family. so i'm not going to say whether or not she was a loving person or whether or not she was someone who believed in celebrating all people. i will simply say that her record is her record, and she opted to record those songs. she opted to perform in blackface. and so i'm sorry that they feel that somehow she's been wronged, but she's the one that did those things. >> lou, i want to give you the last word here. >> well, judy garland did blackface, al jolson did blackface, a lot of people did blackface. >> black people didn't do blackface. >> oh, yes, they did, in fact. this last year a black man did blackface and he was criticized for it. we can't do anything anymore without being criticized as
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being racist. are we all racist? >> lz? >> we're not running around trying to say all white people are rai are racist and all black people are angels. black people were forced to do things or they didn't eat. it doesn't mean we don't have the opportunities to go back and fix those transgressions. >> correct. but let's not wipe them off the face of the earth. >> guys, i appreciate you being with me to have this discussion. i'm sure we'll have the opportunity to have this discussion again. thank you. alisyn? >> that was a great discussion because they were also respectful about a heated subject, and i think that's really interesting in what people are talking about and their model for how to do it. thank you, john. we have an update for you on the near record outbreak now of
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measles. where are these new cases? dr. sanjay gupta is next.
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all right, the cdc has just confirmed 71 more cases of measles nationwide. that brings the u.s. close to a new record number of cases since the disease was declared eliminated nearly two decades ago. chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joins us now. sanjay, are these new cases all concentrated in one place? >> no, you're starting to see new states as well that are going up, so if you look at the map, you add iowa and tennessee, so 20 states before, now 22 states. those are the two new ones. get a look at that, alisyn. this is getting pretty spread around the country. in new york where you are, you still have the highest concentration. washington state is the second highest concentration. we're four months into the year and we're getting very close to having the highest number of people with measles since the year 2000, since this was virtually eliminated in the united states. that's a concern and that spread is a concern as well. >> so sanjay, if you live in the
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area around one of the concentrated places, are you protected? >> let me tell you something and then i'll answer it. remember last week we told you, alisyn, about this man who traveled by bus from new york to michigan and got some 40 people infected along the way. keep that in the back of your mind. what we know is the vast majority of people who are getting measles are people who are not vaccinated, over 90%. that makes sense. but also as part of that, that means close to around 10% of people who are getting measles were previously vaccinated. so what do you do? if you went to public schools and you had required vaccinations and you had two shots, you should be fine. your immunity should be close to 97%. that should be pretty good. if you're not sure of your vaccination status and you liver in one of these areas where meals seems to be spreading, you might just want to go get another measles shot. that's a recommendation coming out. another recommendation, alisyn, you don't start these shots
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until babies are 1 mont2 months age. what we're likely to hear is babies as young as six months of age go ahead and get that first shot if they're going to be traveling internationally or living in an area where measles are spreading. this is what it's come down to, alisyn, now, because we thought we didn't have to deal with this, and no one knew about measles because it wasn't around. those recommendations are changing. >> sanjay, thank you very much for the update this morning. senator elizabeth warren is promising to wipe out student debt and make public colleges free. did you tell do the numbers add up? that's next. but first, there is a new online challenge going viral around the world. it's called hash tag trash tag, and it taps into the selfie craze as a way to help the environment. here is "impact your world." >> i declare the second area clean. let's move on to the front part. my name is byron roman and i have recently reignited the hash tag trash tag challenge.
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. 2020 candidate senator elizabeth warren is out with an ambitious proposal to eliminate student debt. the plan would forgive billions of student loans and expand on her -- the question, of course, is does the math add up? great to have both of you here in studio. catherine, i want to start with you. let me put up specifically what elizabeth warren's proposal does. it cans also up to $50,000 based
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on your income. free undergrad tuition, invests in pell grants over ten years, creates $50 billion fund it costs $1.25 trillion over ten years. you are not convinced this is actually the best way to get kids to go to college. i absolutely think the united states should be investing more money in education, in higher education, and lots of different forms. we have been disinvesting in a long time. my concern is the way the fruit tuition is not the most targeted way to do it. if you make four-year college everyone, it's also free for bill gates' kids. their parents can afford to send them ko college. so basically you're spending the money on people who are going to go to college anyway and who can afford it. my approach to questions like this, as well as the approach as
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some other candidates, by the way. is a more progressive system, progressive in the technical sense. mean you have very big subsidies for and basically rich kids who can afford it, maybe full freight. those who need the help get it. which candidate like this. amy klobuchar as that you could about mag community college free. and -- >> pete buttigieg brought that up, true, saying it's hard for him to square saying someone who earns less money will likely not attend college, may have to pay the burden as far as taxes are concerned for those who will go
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to college. >> he said he was generally supportive, but people making over $200,000 shouldn't receive the same benefits. >> what you may see people embrace more is the student load forgiveness. for her to embrace this idea is clearly she's got her eye on bernie sanders. she's been saying her plan is more expansive, and it's this area where you'll have more people say that's not a bad idea and that tackle as huge issue that americans are struggling with. >> these plans that are introduced, there's no set plan to pay for it. elizabeth warren has a plan she was eager to talk about. >> so your 50 millionth and first dollar, you have to pay two cents and two cents on the
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dollars after that if we you this that on the largest fortune of this country, two cents, we can do universal child care for every baby 0 to 5, universal pre-k, universal college, and knock back the student loan debt burden for 95% of our students and still have nearly a trillion left over. >> she knew her audience. this is where he feels comfortable. where you'll see pushback from people like michael bloomberg, how much can you go after rich americans who also contribute in taxes and also contribute this hiring and in jobs throughout the country, getting something like this passed in congress for many people would be considered
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pie in the sky at this point. >> it polls very well, even among republicans, but there are some legal issues, some constitutional questions, there are other ways you can do sort of the same thing kudos to elizabeth warren for having it on paper and having details, there is some debate about whether the numbers she has -- that her team has compiled are overly optimistic for how much a wealth tax would raise because of things like tax evasion, tax avoidance. it's good we are talking about these proposals that are expensive in the context of how do we pay for them, but again there's an open debate whether the revenue up source would actually be sufficient. >> where we would say we're not taxes income, but net worth. anybody that wants to try to eye
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raid that, let's say reflounce their up u.s. citizenship, would have to pay an exit tax, to kudos for her addressing some of these specifics. >> thank you both. meanwhile, there are breaking developments in the sri lankan bombings so "newsroom" picks up after this quick break. enough? ♪ or, do you want speed and style? power and attraction? exhilaration and distinction? ♪ introducing performance, born of refinement. ♪ the lexus rc line. ♪ experience amazing at your lexus dealer. that's where i feel normal. having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected.
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♪ all right. top of the hour, good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow in new york. >> and i'm jim scuitto in washington. impeach at some point but not necessarily? that seems to be the post-mueller battle plan. but this morning it's coming unstress from both sides. >> some house democrats want to move faster, further and harder against the white house. others wants to delay or ignore their demands. today is the deadline set by the house ways & means committee for tax returns from the president to be held over. let's go to lauren fox, or colleague on capitol hill. we'll get to that in a moment, but


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